NameUNNAMED , F
Spouses
Birth Dateabt 1380
Birth PlaceDruminnor, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death Date1448
Death PlaceDruminnor, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Occupation1st Lord Of Forbes, Created 12 Jul 1442 ®193
Military ServicePart Of The Scottish Force The Fought With The French Against The English, Battle Of Bauge, 1421
Unmarried
ChildrenSusanna , F (~1405-)
Notes for UNNAMED
Alexander, first Lord Forbes, died in 1448; he married, before 1423, Elizabeth, only daughter of George Douglas, first Earl of Angus, and granddaughter of King Robert III. She survived him. and married, secondly, Sir David Hay of Yester.

They had two sons and three daughters:

1. James, second Lord Forbes
2. William, Provost of the Church of St. Giles, Edinburgh
3. Annabella, married, before 1445, to Patrick, Master of Gray
4. Margaret, married to the Laird of Fyvie.
5. Elizabeth, married to Alexander Irvine of Drum

Another daughter, Susanna, is said to have married Sir William Urquhart of Cromarty.

The first Lord Forbes had also a natural son, Mr. Richard, who became Archdeacon of Ross, and held other offices.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 47-50.
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Notes for Alexander (Spouse 1)
He [Sir John] is said to have married Elizabeth or Margaret Kennedy of Dunure,

by whom he had four sons:

1. Sir Alexander
2. Sir William Forbes, ancestor of Lord Pitsligo
3. Sir John Forbes, who obtained the thanedom of Formartin and land of Tolquhoun by marriage with Mariota, daughter and heir of Sir Henry Preston of Formartin, knight, widow of Alexander Chisholm, and was ancestor of the Forbes of Tolquhoun, Foveran, Watertoun, Colloden, and others.
4. Alaster, styled ‘Alaster Cam,’ who married, about 1409, Katharine, the daughter and heiress of Sir Henry Cameron of Brux, by whom he obtained that estate and was ancestor of the Forbes of Brux, now represented by the families of Skellater and Inverernan. On 24 December 1409 he had a charter of the lands of Glencarve and others. He died about 1466,

Sir John Forbes is also said to have had three natural sons:

1. Duncan, ancestor of the family of Auchintoul.
2. Malcolm, ancestory of Culquhary and others.
3. John, a man of violence, who, it is said, was killed by his brother Sir Alexander by command of the King.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 46-47.
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Sir Alexander Forbes acquired most of his possessions subsequently held by his family. He had a charter in his father’s lifetime from Isabel of Douglas, Lady of Mar, of the lands of Edynbanchory and Craglogy, dated 8 November 1402, and confirmed by King Robert III 23 June 1405.

- Sir Alexander first appears as the Laird of Forbes 20 November 1406, when he is witness to a charter by the Duke of Albany.
In the year 1408 he was one of four Scottish chiefs who repaired to England to tourney with English knights.
- On 31 october 1411 he had infeftment from William Fraser of Philorth in the lands of Meikle fintray and others in the barony of Kynedwart.
- On the 24 May 1417 he had a charter from John, Earl of Buchan, of the lands of Fotherbirs in the lordship of Aboyne.
- On 9 June and 14 October 1421 he had letters of safe-conduct by Henry V to England, with a large retinue, to appear before that monarch, and also to visit James I of Scotland, then in Normandy.
- In 1423 he had charter from Alexander, Earl of Mar, of the lands of Alford.
- On 16 October 1423 he had a charter from Murdoch, Duke of Albany, Governor of Scotland, etc., of the lands and barony of Forbes, to him and Elizabeth of Douglas his wife.
- On 4 November 1423 he had an obligation by his brother-in-law, William, Earl of Angus, that he would not sell or alienate any of his lands rents or possessions to the prejudice of his sister [Alexander’s wife, Elspet] or her heirs.
- On the 10 December 1423 he had a charter to himself and his wife of the lands of Meikle Fintry and others from John, Earl of Buchan.
- On the 13 December 1423 and 3 February 1423-4 he had letters of safe-conduct by Henry V to the presence of King James I of Scotland, then in Durham His going, no doubt, was to treat as to the King’s ransom and liberation.
- On 20 August 1425 he had a charter to himself and his wife from William, Earl of Angus, of the lands of Easter Cluny.
- On 20 may 1426 he was bailie of the lands belonging to the Bishop of Moray, and in consideration of his diligence in his Majesty’s affairs, King James I appointed as his [Alexander’s] deputies in that office John of Narne and Richard Wiseman by letter of the above date.
- On 6 Obtober 1430 he had a charter from King James I to him and Elizabeth his wife of the barony of Forbes - with the lands of Kery (Kearn) and others in the earldom of Mar.

On 31 May 1432 Alexander Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, and Sir David Lindsay, his son, agreed with Sir Alexander Forbes that the latter should have the keeping of the Earl’s lands and castle of Strathearn, in the shire of Inverness, during his life, for a yearly rent of £81, of which he was to retain £20 for his fee, and he was also to be the Earl’s depute in the sheriffship of Aberdeen during his lifetime, paying for the office a yearly rent of £10.

On 17th November 1435 he covenanted to aid Sir Robert of Erskine and Sir Thomas, his son, to recover the earldom of Mar and Garioch then in the King’s hands, for which he was to receive from them, within forty days of such recovery, the lordship of Auchindoir, with other subjects.

On 26 June 1436 he granted a charter to the caplain of the parish church of Forbes of 12 merks yearly from the rents of certain lands, for celebrating services for the welfare of the souls of himself and Elizabeth Douglas his wife.

On 12 December of the year last mentioned (1436) he acquired from Andrew of Futhos the lands of futhos (Fiddles) in the parish of Foveran. On 26 June 1439 he had a charter from Robert [Erskine], Earl of Mar, of the half of the lordship Strathdee, in the said earldom.

Under the date 4 July 1440 the first notice of the family residence occurs, when John of Kamloke and William of Ennerkype grant receipt for 151 merks 5 shillings in full of 200 merks ‘that thai suld have had for the makyn of the houss of Drumynour.’

On March 1444 an indenture was made between Sir Alexander Forbes and Robert the Lyle of Duchale, to the effect that when the latter recovered the half of the earldom of Mar, he should give to Forbes his part of the lands and castle of Strathdee and Kyndrocht, in exchange for the lands of cluny and Quhitfield, in Atratherne and Angus. This indenture was confirmed by King James II on 7 January 1447-48.

Between October 1444 and July 1445 Sir Alexander Forbes, knight, was raised to the Peerage, as he is at the first date styled ‘of that ilk,’ and a writ of 1 July 1445 his is styled LORD FORBES. The last reference to this Lord Forbes is on 12 July 1447, when King James II granted a precept in his favour to the Lords of Excequer, remitting to him the arrears and remainder of his accounts.

Alexander, first Lord Forbes, died in 1448;

He married, before 1423, Elizabeth, only daughter of George Douglas, first Earl of Angus, and granddaughter of King Robert III. She survived him. and married, secondly, Sir David Hay of Yester.

They had two sons and three daughters:

1. James, second Lord Forbes
2. William, Provost of the Church of St. Giles, Edinburgh
3. Annabella, married, before 1445, to Patrick, Master of Gray
4. Margaret, married to the Laird of Fyvie.
5. Elizabeth, married to Alexander Irvine of Drum

Another daughter, Susanna, is said to have married Sir William Urquhart of Cromarty.

The first Lord Forbes had also a natural son, Mr. Richard, who became Archdeacon of Ross, and held other offices.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 47-50.
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Alexander de Forbes, 1st Lord Forbes
(c. 1380–1448), also feudal baron of Forbes, was a Scottish nobleman.

He was the eldest son of Sir John de Forbes (died 1405), Sheriff of Aberdeen, and Coroner of that shire, by his wife, Margaret, a daughter of Kennedy of Dunure.

Alexander de Forbes fought at the Battle of Harlaw in 1411, and appears among the Scottish forces sent to the assistance of Charles, Dauphin of France, afterwards King Charles VII, and had a share in the victory obtained over the English at Beaugé, in Anjou, on 22 March 1424. But soon after, at the desire of King James I of Scotland, then a prisoner in England, Forbes quit the French service and subsequently obtained three Safe-conducts at different times to visit England, with one hundred persons in his retinue each time, to wait upon his sovereign.

He was created a Lord of Parliament sometime after 1436. The precise date of the peerage creation is not known (although Brown gives 1440), but in a Precept, dated 12 July 1442, he is already styled Lord Forbes.

The first Lord Forbes married Lady Elizabeth (or Mary), only daughter of George Douglas, 1st Earl of Angus, a granddaughter of King Robert II of Scotland, by whom he had two sons and three daughters. He was succeeded by his eldest son:

James Forbes, 2nd Lord Forbes, (d. c.1460).

Source: Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Forbes,_1st_Lord_Forbes
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“This Sr Alexander being made Knight, and eldest son of the bretheren, past wt. the Earle of Marr to the battel of Leidge, in France; and after his home-coming wt. the sd. Earle, through his singular manhood and honorable acts done in yt. journey, was made Lord Forbes, and yr’after married Dam Elspet Douglas, daughter to the Earl Douglas; she bare to him two sons and two daughters:

“the name of the eldest was James, thereafter Lord Forbes:
the name of second was Mr. John Forbes, Provost in Sanct Geill’s Kirk, in Edinburgh
his two daughters, the one married the Laird of Fivie, and
the other one the Laird of Drum, and aired both yr. lands,

“as alse the sd. Lord Alexr.: had one base son before marriage (with one Stewart) named Sr Richard Forbes: had no succession, save some private men about Aberdeen, such as John Forbes: and Mr. Richard had no successione.

Source: GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILY OF FORBES, from the account of Mr. Mathew Lumsden of Tulliekerne, written in 1580, Inverness, Printed at the Journal Office, 1819, p. 10-11.
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