NameLord Alexander FORBES 4th Of Forbes , M
Birth Dateabt 1470
Birth PlaceForbes Castle, Alford, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death Datebef 6 May 1491
Death PlaceForbes Castle, Alford, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Spouses
Birth Dateabt 1470
Birth MemoProbably Belgium
Death Dateaft 9 Feb 1516
Death PlaceCassillis, Ayrshire, Scotland
FatherEarl Thomas BOYD 1st Of Arran , M (~1450-~1474)
MotherPrincess Mary STEWART Of Scots , F (1453-1488)
Marr Dateabt 1490
No Children
Notes for Lord Alexander FORBES 4th Of Forbes

He [William] married Christian Gordon, third daughter of Alexander, first Earl of Huntly, by whom he had three sons and one daughter:

1. Alexander, fourth Lord

2. Arthur, fifth Lord.
3. John, sixth Lord.
4. Christian, married, as his second wife, to William, first Lorth Ruthven, and had issue.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 51-2
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Alexander, fourth Lord Forbes.

On 5 July 1483 Alexander, Lord Forbes, son and heir of William, Lord Forbes, was ordained to pay to Margaret, Lady Dirleton, 2000 merks, being the double of the casualty of his marriage, for his failing to marry Margaret Ker, Lady Dirleton’s daughter.

He was a distinguished supporter of King James III, and attaching himself to the King’s party he took up arms to revenge his death in 1488. He displayed, in Aberdeen, and other places in the north, the bloody shirt of the murdered sovereign, and summoned all good subjects to revenge.

The flame of insurrection was suddenly extinguished by the defeat of Earl of Lennox at tullymoss, and Lord Forbes, submitted to King James IV,’

He died 6 May 1491, without issue.

He married Margaret Boyd, only daughter of Thomas, Earl of Arran, and niece of King James III. She was married secondly, about 9 August 1509, to David, Earl of Cassillis

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 52-3
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Alexander, 4th Lord Forbes, Born, circa 1463 [sic], Succeeded, 1483, Died 1491.

Alexander 4th Lord Forbes, eldest son of William, 3rd Lord, married Margaret Boyd, only daughter of Thomas, Earl of Arran, and of Princess Mary, sister of James III.

He died before May 6th, 1491, s.p.,

and she married, secondly, David Kennedy, afterwards 1st Earl of Cassilis, and died without issue.

To quote again from the MS. history of the family:

“Alexander, the 4th Lord Forbes and second of that name was one of the greatest Hectors of his age. A gentleman bold and daring, of a lofty and aspiring soul. Ambitious of honour and impatient of wrongs. One who did disdain the softness of a private life, thought he he was never in his element but when engaged in great and dangerous undertakings, as if by his birth he had been on calculated for extraordinary adventures.” …

After the fatal battle of Suchieburn, June 7th, 1488, when the king was treacherously killed, and the successful insurgents had the prince crowned as King James IV, Lord forbes rode through the North country carrying the King’s bloody shirt on his spear, and trying to rouse a party to avenge him (as Matthew Stuart, Earl of Lennox, did in the West), but they were both defeated and eventually recognised the young king.

Source: THE HOUSE OF FORBES, Edited by Alistair & HenriettaTayler, Aberdeen, 1937, p. 50-
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William Lord Forbes married on Christian Gordon, daughter to the Earle of Huntley, who did bear to him

Alexr. Lord Forbes,
Arthur Lord Forbes and
John Lord Forbes

Alex. Lord Forbes, eldest son to gray Willie, who married _____ Boyd, daughter to the Lord Boyd, and sister daughter to King James the 3rd, who had no bairns to the said Lord Alexander, and after his deceass was marrired to the Earl of Cassles.

Him succeeded by Arthur Lord Forbes his second brother who married Dame Katharine Lyon, daughter to the Lord Glames, who died likewayes wt’out successione.

Source: GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILY OF FORBES, from the account of Mr. Mathew Lumsden of Tulliekerne, written in 1580, Inverness, Printed at the Journal Office, 1819, p. 11.
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William, surnamed The Gray, married Christian, daughter to Alexander first Earl of Huntly,) and had by her... three sons, successively lords, the eldest of whom was that lord, Alexander, who rose so heroically in arms to avenge the murder of King James III. He had married that King’s niece, Grekin Boyd.

Source: COLLECTIONS ON THE SHIRES OF ABERDEEN AND BANFF, Printed for the Spalding Club, Aberdeen, 1843, p. 310.
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Alexander Forbes, 4th Lord Forbes married Margaret Boyd, daughter of Thomas Boyd, 1st Earl of Arran, Master of Boyd and Mary Stewart, before 5 July 1483.

Alexander Forbes, 4th Lord Forbes died before 6 May 1491; d.s.p.

Source: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1475.htm
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Notes for Grizel / Margaret (Spouse 1)
The Earl of Arran’s children, who are both said to have been born abroad, were:

1. James, second Lord Boyd
2. Grizel or Margaret. She is called Grizel in the pedigrees, but appears as Margaret in the Registers of the Great Seal and in the Papal Dispensation, etc., She was born between 1468 and 1473, and was married, first, to Alexander, fourth Lord Forbes, who died s.p. before 16 May 1491; secondly, as second wife, before 9 August 1509, to David (Kennedy), third Lord Kennedy ...

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol V, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 147-9.
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Grizel or Margaret. She is called Grizel in the pedigrees, but appears as Margaret in the Registers of the Great Seal and in the Papal Dispensation, etc.

She was born between 1468 and 1473,

and was married,

(1) first, to Alexander, fourth Lord Forbes, who died s.p. before 16 May 1491;

(2) secondly, as second wife, before 9 August 1509, to David (Kennedy), third Lord Kennedy, then created Earl of Cassillis, who died s.p. by her, at Flodden, 9 September 1513

In the accounts of Lord Home, Chancellor of the earldom of March 1493-94 there is a payment to her as ‘amita regis’ of £20 by express command of the King, and a similar sum in name of pension for the preceding term of Whitsuntide. From this date to 1509 the Exchequer Rolls show regular payments of her allowance of £40 per annum. In 1495-96 she appears as receiving dress with the rest of the Royal Family.

She was served heir to her brother in his lands in the counties of Ayr, Lanark, Edinburgh, Perth, and Forfar, 27 March 1495, and was living, a widow, 9 February 1515-16, when she made an appeal in connection with a dispute she had with her stepson, the second Earl of Cassillis.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol V, Edinburgh, 1906, p. 149.
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(1) He [Lord Alexander] married Margaret Boyd, only daughter of Thomas, Earl of Arran, and niece of King James III. She was married secondly, about 9 August 1509, to David, Earl of Cassillis

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 52-3
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(2) He [David, Earl of Cassillis] married, secondly, about 9 August 1509, Margaret Boyd, already named as widow of Alexander Lord Forbes. She survived the Earl, and had a dispute with her stepson Gilbert, second Earl, as to which she appealed on 9 February 1515-16.

The first Earl had no issue by his second marriage.


Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol II, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 460-64.
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On August 9th, 1509, at the time of her second marriage, Margaret Boyd, Lady forbes, was grantedIn her pure viduitate and before the completion of her marriage with David, Lord Kennedy,certain lands for which she was to pay one penny fee. This charter was witnessed by David, Bishop of Candida Casa (whithorn in Galloway) and of the Chapel royal, David, Bishop of Lismore, Lord Avondale, and others.

Margaret Boyd survived til 1516.

Source: THE HOUSE OF FORBES, Edited by Alistair & HenriettaTayler, Aberdeen, 1937, p.51.
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